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			{{MormonThinkSummaryHeader\|Lying for the Lord}}
	The positions that this MormonThink article appears to take are the following:		The positions that this MormonThink article appears to take are the following:
	*The critics conclude that lying is "standard operating procedure for Church leaders" from Joseph Smith's time to the present, and that pretty much every thing that the Church does is somehow related to deception (this is a standard position taken by many ex-Mormons after their disaffection with the Church).		*The critics conclude that lying is "standard operating procedure for Church leaders" from Joseph Smith's time to the present, and that pretty much every thing that the Church does is somehow related to deception (this is a standard position taken by many ex-Mormons after their disaffection with the Church).

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 |subject=Did Joseph write secret "love letters" to any of his polygamous wives?
 |summary=Critics claim that on 18 August 1842 Joseph Smith wrote a “love letter” to Sarah Ann Whitney requesting a secret rendezvous or "tryst." Joseph had been sealed to Sarah Ann three weeks prior to this time. What does this letter actually say?
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	*Joseph publicly denied plural marriage while secretly practicing it.		*Joseph publicly denied plural marriage while secretly practicing it.
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			*It is true that Joseph hid the practice of plural marriage.
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			A contemporary journal describes the reaction to Joseph's attempt to teach this doctrine:
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			When the prophet “went to his dinner,” [Joseph Lee] Robinson wrote, “as it might be expected several of the first women of the church collected at the Prophet’s house with his wife [and] said thus to the prophet Joseph O mister Smith you have done it now it will never do it is all but Blassphemy you must take back what you have said to day is it is outrageous it would ruin us as a people.” So in the afternoon session Smith again took the stand, according to Robinson, and said “Brethren and Sisters I take back what we said this morning and leave it as though there had been nothing said.” (Richard S. Van Wagoner, ''Mormon Polygamy: A History'' (Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 1986),48; citing Robinson, Journal, 23–24.)
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			\|subject=Hiding the truth about polygamy
			\|summary=It is true that Joseph did not always tell others about plural marriage. He did, however, make some attempt to teach the doctrine to the Saints. It is thus important to realize that the public preaching of polygamy—or announcing it to the general Church membership, thereby informing the public by proxy—was simply not a feasible plan. Critics of Joseph's choice want their audience to ignore the danger to him and the Saints.
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	*Joseph's polyandrous marriages were not published in Church manuals.		*Joseph's polyandrous marriages were not published in Church manuals.
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			*Church manuals don't say much of anything about any type of plural marriage at all, not just those that were polyandrous.
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	*Critics claim that the Church histories "deceive readers by failing to point out that Joseph exercised poor judgment."		*Critics claim that the Church histories "deceive readers by failing to point out that Joseph exercised poor judgment."
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	*Church histories are full of examples of Joseph Smith exercising poor ~~judgement~~ and the consequences that resulted from it. Some examples include:		*Church histories are full of examples of Joseph Smith exercising poor judgment and the consequences that resulted from it. Some examples include:
	**The Kirtland Safety Society—Consequence: apostasy of many Church leaders, including two of the three witnesses.		**The Kirtland Safety Society—Consequence: apostasy of many Church leaders, including two of the three witnesses.
	**The destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor printing press—Consequence: the martyrdom of Joseph Smith.		**The destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor printing press—Consequence: the martyrdom of Joseph Smith.

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	*Critics claim that the Church histories "deceive readers by failing to point out that Joseph exercised poor judgment."		*Critics claim that the Church histories "deceive readers by failing to point out that Joseph exercised poor judgment."
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			*Church histories are full of examples of Joseph Smith exercising poor judgement and the consequences that resulted from it. Some examples include:
			**The Kirtland Safety Society—Consequence: apostasy of many Church leaders, including two of the three witnesses.
			**The destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor printing press—Consequence: the martyrdom of Joseph Smith.
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	*Plural marriages were performed after the Manifesto was issued in 1890.		*Plural marriages were performed after the Manifesto was issued in 1890.
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			*Some Church members unfamiliar with the history behind the aggressive Federal anti-polygamy movement have been troubled by critics who try to portray Church members’ and leaders’ choices as dishonest and improper. It is important to realize that this is a point on which modern enemies of the Church would be impossible to satisfy. If the Church had acquiesced to government pressure and stopped polygamy completely in 1890, the Church would then be charged with having “revelations on demand,” or with abandoning something they claimed was divine under government pressure. In fact, prior to the Manifesto, the attorney prosecuting Elder Lorenzo Snow for polygamy “predicted that if Snow and others were found guilty and sent to prison church leaders would find it convenient to have a revelation setting aside the commandment on polygamy.”
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	*Critics claim that the Church is deceptive in its practices for ensuring that Baptism for the Dead is not performed for Holocaust victims or celebrities.		*Critics claim that the Church is deceptive in its practices for ensuring that Baptism for the Dead is not performed for Holocaust victims or celebrities.
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			*{{antispeak\|mutually exclusive}} The Church has made great efforts to prevent such baptisms from being performed. Critics want to the Church to exercise some form of control over members who persist in submitting such names. These same critics complain that the Church exercises too much control over its members.
			*While work toward the complete removal of all Holocaust victims' names from the Church's database continues, controversy and frustration may well continue to surface. It is important to remember that progress has been made, and that as temple approval safeguards become more sophisticated, one can hope that misguided individuals will be much less able to violate the agreement.
			*The Church has now flagged Holocaust-related names in the database so that if an attempt is made to perform ordinance work for them, the user's account will be locked.
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			\|link=Mormonism and temples/Work for Holocaust victims
			\|subject=Work for Holocaust victims
			\|summary=In 1995, after it was learned that a substantial number of Holocaust victims were listed in the Church's temple records as having been baptized, an agreement was signed between the Church and leading Jewish authorities which officially ended baptizing Jewish Holocaust victims posthumously.
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	*Critics note that Joseph took wives without Emma's consent, contrary to the requirement that the first wife needed to give consent.		*Critics note that Joseph took wives without Emma's consent, contrary to the requirement that the first wife needed to give consent.
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			*Emma was aware of plural marriage; it is not clear at exactly what point she was made aware, partly due to there being relatively few early sources on the matter. Emma was generally opposed to the practice of plural marriage, and did much to try and thwart it. There were times, however, when Emma gave permission for Joseph's plural marriages, though she soon changed her mind. Emma was troubled by plural marriage, but her difficulties arose partly from her conviction that Joseph was a prophet.
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