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	~~It is not known for certain whether or not Joseph Smith completed his revisions to the Bible.~~
	*One critical website poses the question: "Why didn’t the next prophet, or any subsequent prophet, finish the inspired version of the Bible that the church thought was so important that they altered our version of the King James Bible to include the portions that Joseph did retranslate? Does it make any sense that the inspired version of the Bible should not be finished merely with the death of the first prophet of the restoration? If we really did have a succession of prophets since Joseph Smith, this important work would have been finished and published as God commanded Joseph to do." <ref>"JST Bible Translation," MormonThink.com <nowiki>http://mormonthink.com/jst.htm#full</nowiki></ref>

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	The importance of the JST is found in the revelations that came from it and the important doctrines that emerged from it (especially in the canonized portion in the Book of Moses). The JST (or "Inspired Version") is probably better seen as a type of inspired commentary on the Bible text by Joseph. Its value consists not in making it the new "official" scripture, but in the insights Joseph provides readers and ''what Joseph himself learned'' during the process. As such, it would never actually be "finished."

	* However, the fact that Joseph was collecting funds to publish what we call the JST ~~suggests that he believed it was sufficiently advanced to be published.~~		===The JST is not intended primarily or solely as a restoration of lost Bible text===
	* Joseph did not ~~view his revisions to the Bible~~ as a ~~"once and for all" or "finally completed translation" goal. The translation could be acceptable for purposes, but still subject to later clarification or elaboration.~~
	* There was no attempt to canonize the JST then, or now.

	Most important to note, the JST or other scriptures are not the ultimate source of LDS doctrine—having a living prophet is what is most vital. Joseph improved his prophetic capacity through the production of ~~the JST.~~

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	The JST often makes changes that harmonize one gospel with another, which is what your example does. While one gospel says "judge not" (though this may not be as absolute as you make it out to be) John 7:24 has Jesus commanding to "judge righteous judgment." The JST change harmonizes the two gospels by making Matthew agree with John. If indeed "there is a very real difference in commanding to "Judge righteously" and to "Judge not" at all" then it is a problem inherently present in the differing accounts of the Gospels, which the JST resolves in a particular way.		The JST often makes changes that harmonize one gospel with another, which is what your example does. While one gospel says "judge not" (though this may not be as absolute as you make it out to be) John 7:24 has Jesus commanding to "judge righteous judgment." The JST change harmonizes the two gospels by making Matthew agree with John. If indeed "there is a very real difference in commanding to "Judge righteously" and to "Judge not" at all" then it is a problem inherently present in the differing accounts of the Gospels, which the JST resolves in a particular way.


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	The JST often makes changes that harmonize one gospel with another, which is what your example does. While one gospel says "judge not" (though this may not be as absolute as you make it out to be) John 7:24 has Jesus commanding to "judge righteous judgment." The JST change harmonizes the two gospels by making Matthew agree with John. If indeed "there is a very real difference in commanding to "Judge righteously" and to "Judge not" at all" then it is a problem inherently present in the differing accounts of the Gospels, which the JST resolves in a particular way.		The JST often makes changes that harmonize one gospel with another, which is what your example does. While one gospel says "judge not" (though this may not be as absolute as you make it out to be) John 7:24 has Jesus commanding to "judge righteous judgment." The JST change harmonizes the two gospels by making Matthew agree with John. If indeed "there is a very real difference in commanding to "Judge righteously" and to "Judge not" at all" then it is a problem inherently present in the differing accounts of the Gospels, which the JST resolves in a particular way.

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	The JST (or "Inspired Version") is probably better seen as a type of inspired commentary on the Bible text by Joseph. Its value consists not in making it the new "official" scripture, but in the insights Joseph provides readers and ''what Joseph himself learned'' during the process. As such, it would never actually be "finished."		The importance of the JST is found in the revelations that came from it and the important doctrines that emerged from it (especially in the canonized portion in the Book of Moses). The JST (or "Inspired Version") is probably better seen as a type of inspired commentary on the Bible text by Joseph. Its value consists not in making it the new "official" scripture, but in the insights Joseph provides readers and ''what Joseph himself learned'' during the process. As such, it would never actually be "finished."

	* However, the fact that Joseph was collecting funds to publish what we call the JST suggests that he believed it was sufficiently advanced to be published.		* However, the fact that Joseph was collecting funds to publish what we call the JST suggests that he believed it was sufficiently advanced to be published.

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