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Redirected page to Question: How did Christ achieve deification before mortality?

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	~~{{JesusChristPortal}}~~		#REDIRECT [[Jesus_Christ/Deification_before_mortality]]

	~~==Question==~~
	~~Critics charge that since LDS doctrine teaches that a body is required for exalatation, the pre-mortal Jesus cannot be fully God, because he did not have a physical body.~~

	~~===Source(s) of criticism===~~
	*{{CriticalWork:Abanes:Becoming Gods\|pages=241}}
	*{{50Questions}}{{wikilink\|url=50_Answers#~~46._If_having_a_physical_body_is_necessary_to_become_a_god.2C_how_did_Jesus_become_a_god_before_he_had_a_body.3F}}~~
	*{{QuestionsMormonsShouldAsk}}{{wikilink\|url=Questions_All_Mormons_Should_Ask_Themselves#2._If_Gods_are_individuals_who_have_passed_through_an_earth_life_to_attain_Godhood.2C_how_is_it_that_one_person_of_the_Trinity_.28Jesus_Christ.29_was_God_before_He_received_a_body_or_passed_through_earth_life.3F}}

	~~==Answer==~~
	Having a body is necessary for a fullness of joy ({{s\|\|DC\|93\|33}}). It was necessary for the Savior to receive a body at some point, but the timeframe in which He did so is not particularly important. (To travel overseas to another country, one needs both a passport and an airplane ticket. It doesn't matter in which order one gets the passport or the ticket, but one must eventually have both in order to reach one's destination.)

	If correct sequence is vital, then critics must explain how Christ's atonement could be efficacious to those who were born, lived, and died prior to His crucifixion. The fact that it was effective should blunt any feigned requirement for sequence concerning the Jesus' receipt of a physical body.

	Critics ignore that the gospel teaches us what ''we' must do to fulfill God's commandments and purposes. It does not spend much time telling us what ''Jesus'' was required to do—clearly, he had many duties and abilities which far outstripped ours. That is why he was God and Savior before we came to this earth, and why we must rely upon his grace for salvation.

	~~==Endnotes==~~
	~~''None''~~
	~~==Further reading==~~

	~~===FAIR wiki articles===~~
	~~{{JesusWiki}}~~

	~~===FAIR web site===~~
	~~{{JesusFAIR}}~~
	~~===External links===~~
	~~{{JesusLinks}}~~

	~~===Printed material===~~
	~~{{JesusPrint}}~~

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	*{{CriticalWork:Abanes:Becoming Gods\|pages=241}}		*{{CriticalWork:Abanes:Becoming Gods\|pages=241}}
	*{{50Questions))		*{{50Questions}}{{wikilink\|url=50_Answers#46._If_having_a_physical_body_is_necessary_to_become_a_god.2C_how_did_Jesus_become_a_god_before_he_had_a_body.3F}}
	*{{QuestionsMormonsShouldAsk}}{{wikilink\|url=Questions_All_Mormons_Should_Ask_Themselves#2._If_Gods_are_individuals_who_have_passed_through_an_earth_life_to_attain_Godhood.2C_how_is_it_that_one_person_of_the_Trinity_.28Jesus_Christ.29_was_God_before_He_received_a_body_or_passed_through_earth_life.3F}}		*{{QuestionsMormonsShouldAsk}}{{wikilink\|url=Questions_All_Mormons_Should_Ask_Themselves#2._If_Gods_are_individuals_who_have_passed_through_an_earth_life_to_attain_Godhood.2C_how_is_it_that_one_person_of_the_Trinity_.28Jesus_Christ.29_was_God_before_He_received_a_body_or_passed_through_earth_life.3F}}

GregSmith: New page: {{JesusChristPortal}} ==Question== Critics charge that since LDS doctrine teaches that a body is required for exalatation, the pre-mortal Jesus cannot be fully God, because he did not hav...

2009-01-03T18:27:09Z

New page: {{JesusChristPortal}} ==Question== Critics charge that since LDS doctrine teaches that a body is required for exalatation, the pre-mortal Jesus cannot be fully God, because he did not hav...

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==Question==
Critics charge that since LDS doctrine teaches that a body is required for exalatation, the pre-mortal Jesus cannot be fully God, because he did not have a physical body.

===Source(s) of criticism===
*{{CriticalWork:Abanes:Becoming Gods|pages=241}}
*{{50Questions))
*{{QuestionsMormonsShouldAsk}}{{wikilink|url=Questions_All_Mormons_Should_Ask_Themselves#2._If_Gods_are_individuals_who_have_passed_through_an_earth_life_to_attain_Godhood.2C_how_is_it_that_one_person_of_the_Trinity_.28Jesus_Christ.29_was_God_before_He_received_a_body_or_passed_through_earth_life.3F}}

==Answer==
Having a body is necessary for a fullness of joy ({{s||DC|93|33}}). It was necessary for the Savior to receive a body at some point, but the timeframe in which He did so is not particularly important. (To travel overseas to another country, one needs both a passport and an airplane ticket. It doesn't matter in which order one gets the passport or the ticket, but one must eventually have both in order to reach one's destination.)

If correct sequence is vital, then critics must explain how Christ's atonement could be efficacious to those who were born, lived, and died prior to His crucifixion. The fact that it was effective should blunt any feigned requirement for sequence concerning the Jesus' receipt of a physical body.

Critics ignore that the gospel teaches us what ''we' must do to fulfill God's commandments and purposes. It does not spend much time telling us what ''Jesus'' was required to do—clearly, he had many duties and abilities which far outstripped ours. That is why he was God and Savior before we came to this earth, and why we must rely upon his grace for salvation.

==Endnotes==
''None''
==Further reading==

===FAIR wiki articles===
{{JesusWiki}}

===FAIR web site===
{{JesusFAIR}}
===External links===
{{JesusLinks}}

===Printed material===
{{JesusPrint}}